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johndilbeckOffline
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Post   Posted: May 04, 2005 - 06:28 AM Reply with quote Back to top

mudnik wrote:
More exciting changes coming up. Earn $30 for each EA you bring in from the very first EA (instead of the current 3 minimum). Earn also up to $150 for every team leader. New TL co-op option of powerline whereby the affiliates can be filled up infinitely deep instead of horizontally. Network growth recap will also go up to 24 levels instead of the current 12. If the powerline is used properly, it can be a massive incentive for affiliates to upgrade to EA.


Hi,

After looking over the new bonuses, it's not this straightforward, at least for most of us.

To get the $30 bonus for each EA upgrade, you must be either a Platinum Team Leader or a Gold Team Leader sponsoring at least 3.

For EAs the bonus is only $10 (or $15 each for 3 or more).

It's probably going to take a long time for an EA to earn the total $150 for sponsoring a new EA, because the new affiliate must progress to PTL and the sponsor will be paid at each leadership level promotion. How long does this take?

I don't know everyone here, but I recognize a few names. How many GTLs and PTLs are on the board? A handful?

Some of them (you?) are able to sponsor hundreds of new affiliates every month. I know this because I see them spill over into my T-Net and then I seen them disappear 30 days later.

I have some idea of how much work and money it takes to sponsor that many people consistently and I believe anyone who can do that deserves to earn as much as possible. It's a shame to see people like Erich and Stone work so hard and see their income drop as a result.

For myself, I like SFI for the training, for meeting great people, for IAHBE and the magazines and books I get most months, and for the great cleaning supplies. (I'll never go back to any other orange cleaner.)

I'm a BTL and I'm trying to build a team, but it's slow going. I've never had any significant help from my upline, so I'm trying to learn it myself as I go.

SFI has never been one of my big sources of income, but I would like for it to become one of them.

I still have faith in the company and I'm getting enough out of it to continue, and hopefully the T-Net will pay off eventually. (However, I earned more yesterday from the sale of something I represent for another company than I expect to earn over the next three months with SFI.)

So, in my long-winded way, it looks to me like most EAs will get a $10 bonus now and then for sponsoring another EA, but the other $140 is a long way out.

On the other hand, a GTL or PTL sponsoring lots of affiliates should get some nice bonuses as they sponsor EAs and help them move up the ranks of leadership. This is a good thing. Folks like Erich and Stone deserve more income because they're getting more results.

For myself, I'd rather make a couple of thousand dollars or more every month by retailing IAHBE (which I think is a very good product), the cleaners, and magazine subscriptions, but I haven't managed to do that, yet.

I can understand how folks are upset over having to learn a whole new system, another comp plan, and declining revenue. I agree that SFI has had more radical comp plan changes than any other company I work with.

I like being able to discuss these issues more freely here and on other forums than I can on the SFI dboard.

But, even with all of these considerations, for some reason, I'm still optimistic about the future of the company. Some things changed for the better during 2005 (vstore, wholesale program) and it seems as if Gery is trying to provide us with better products and services to sell. I hope it is successful and I hope more of the products provide residual income.

Sorry to ramble so much. I think I need to go get another cup of coffee. It's still early here.

All the best,

JD

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Post   Posted: May 05, 2005 - 04:11 AM Reply with quote Back to top

Hello Mudnik,

Retailing products in Europe is not going to be easy due to the shipping costs involved. However, if you can use the retailing plan that I outlined for online activity, shipping is not as big a factor. Select Ezines that target the US market, and your shipping costs will be the same as mine.

Another aspect that you can look at is wholesaling the products to a US company. This would involve a bit of juggling on your part, where the customer would pay you for the product. You would then order the product at the wholesale price, and have it shipped directly to your customer. You would have to charge a price that is more than the wholesale price, but less than the retail price, then pocket the difference.

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Post   Posted: May 05, 2005 - 10:38 AM Reply with quote Back to top

That's a good idea. I think a simpler way of doing it is to get them to buy directly from the affiliate store and then rebating them discounts.

The ezine portion will have to wait. There's simply too many things going on now to start testing out a new medium.

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Post   Posted: May 05, 2005 - 10:58 AM Reply with quote Back to top

johndilbeck wrote:


So, in my long-winded way, it looks to me like most EAs will get a $10 bonus now and then for sponsoring another EA, but the other $140 is a long way out.

On the other hand, a GTL or PTL sponsoring lots of affiliates should get some nice bonuses as they sponsor EAs and help them move up the ranks of leadership. This is a good thing. Folks like Erich and Stone deserve more income because they're getting more results.

JD


I think another thing we realise from all these changes is that big commissions can only be made if your team grows, ie. your downlines advance in rank. Upliens will have to help their EA rise to BTL, BTL rise to STL, etc. So, with a direct cash benefit, those big builders might start to give away their affiliates directly to their immediate downlines instead of having few hundred personal affiliate signups/month. In the process, they get rewarded too.

By creating rank advancement and depth in the network, people are more likely to stick around.

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Post   Posted: May 22, 2005 - 09:27 AM Reply with quote Back to top

I like the last few adjustments that SFI has done. I will use the Team Coop to place affiliates under my own affiliates as if they sponsored them. When my downline advances in rank I do the same and I also will get a Leadership Builder Bonus. The key is to use the Team Coop Tool strategically by placing your affiliates in all the right places.

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Post   Posted: Apr 23, 2007 - 11:47 PM Reply with quote Back to top

I'm a bit confused after reading this. Earning $10 or $15 or $30 commissions on new EA's, I didn't know you got those commissions.

I had 2 new EA's last month and I earned a executive match commission on them, is that what you are talking about or something different? I am doing ok so far, in 6 weeks promotion I've just made BTL but I must admit the whole commission structure is pretty confusing.
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